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It all started when the rockstar David Byrne did a Freaky-Friday-like body-swap with a Barbie Doll. That\u2019s what inspired him \u2014 along with his collaborator Mala Gaonkar \u2014 to transform a 15,000 square-foot warehouse in Denver, Colorado into a brainy funhouse known as the Theater of the Mind.\nThis episode, co-Host Latif Nasser moderates a live conversation between Byrne and Neuroscientist Thalia Wheatley at the Denver Center for the Performing Arts. The trio talk about how we don\u2019t see what we think we see, don\u2019t hear what we think we hear, and don\u2019t know what we think we know, but also how all that\u2026 might actually be a good thing.\nSpecial thanks to Charlie Miller and everyone else at the Denver Center for the Performing Arts, Emily Simoness and everyone else at the Arbutus Foundation, Boen Wang, and Heather Radke. \n\xa0\nEpisode Credits:\nProduced by Suzie Lechtenberg\n\xa0\nCITATIONS\nTheater of the mind website: https://theateroftheminddenver.com/\n\xa0\nOur newsletter comes out every Wednesday. It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)!Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab(https://members.radiolab.org/) today.Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org.\n\nLeadership support for Radiolab\u2019s science programming is provided by the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, Science Sandbox, a Simons Foundation Initiative, and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.