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Last week, Lulu heard an interview that trapped her in her car. She decided to play it for Latif.\nThe interview \u2013 originally from a podcast called The Relentless Picnic, but presented by one of Lulu\u2019s current podcast faves, The 11th \u2013 is part of an episode of mini pep talks designed to help us all get through this cold, dark, second-pandemic-winter-in-a-row. But the segment that Lulu brings Latif is about someone trying to get through something arguably much more difficult, something a pep talk can\u2019t solve, but that a couple friends \u2014 and one very generous stranger \u2014 might be able to help make a little more bearable.\nThe episode of The 11th this comes from is \u201cI\u2019m Here to Pep You Up.\u201d The Relentless Picnic is currently running a series of episodes called CABIN, an audio exploration of isolation, which you can listen to here. The organization where Matt volunteers as a counselor is called SUDEP. The Lu Olkowski story Lulu recommends at the end of the episode is \u201cGrandpa,\u201d and the lobster story Latif recommends is \u201cThe Luckiest Lobster.\u201d\nSpecial Thanks:\nEric Mennel, senior producer at The 11th, and host of the podcast Stay Away from Matthew Magill.Lu Olkowski, voracious listener, super reporter, and host of the podcast Love Me.Radiolab is on YouTube! Catch up with new episodes and hear classics from our archive. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past \u2014 like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. Take a look, explore and subscribe!\nSupport Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate.