Michael Little from Ratio in conversation with Hilary Cottam about her recently published book Radical Help: How We Can Remake the Relationships Between Us & Revolutionise the Welfare State in which she offers a vision, rooted in human connection, of how we can re-design the welfare state for this century. Hilary Cottam is a leading British innovator and protagonist for relational social policy. Hilary has been working over three decades on designing solutions to major social challenges.