Safe Families for Children, a Newcastle-based charity, is one of the most significant relational innovations in children’s social care in recent years. They have shown the way to better connect public systems with civil society, growing in the last five years from one or two local authorities in the North East to about 40 across England and Scotland. There is evidence from some areas of reducing the flow of children into care of over 10 per cent a year. As part of a series of conversations across the country, Michael Little from Ratio will be talking to Safe Families Chief Executive, Keith Danby, about Safe Families and what it says about the respective roles of civil society and public systems.