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Published: July 27, 2019, 2:41 p.m.

Brother Carson Block of Muddy Waters Capital joins me to talk the life of a short seller on the West Coast, the 2020 Democratic Presidential candidates, why he left San Francisco, how his winery is doing, what he thinks about student debt, why app-ifying everything is a terrible idea, his outlook on macro and a little bit of Tesla. 

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