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Transcribed highlights of the show can be found in our episode summaries.\nIn the aftermath of the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, thousands of people across the country have taken to the streets to protest police brutality. Video of Floyd\u2019s final moments as a police officer used his knee to pin his neck and his three colleagues looked on prompted a strong reaction from around this country.\nWhile perhaps more white evangelicals have spoken out against the police officers\u2019 actions than after previous acts of police brutality made national news, some of the ways that they are framing their statements about law enforcement suggests they actually aren\u2019t getting it, says Aaron L. Griffith, assistant professor of history at Sattler College in Boston.\n\u201cI worry that many white evangelicals are talking about the problem of police brutality in terms of the exceptions, in terms of the bad apples. And then proposing things like more training or pushing more into the colorblind frame or even mobilizing language like \u2018racial reconciliation,\u2019 to say that black Americans have an opportunity to forgive and befriend the officers in their midst,\u201d said Griffith, who is also the author of the forthcoming God\u2019s Law and Order: The Politics of Punishment in Evangelical America.\u201cThat is very concerning to me because we've seen this before.\nWe've seen this in moves toward community policing, which envisions the police as more closely connected, and perhaps even friendly, to the neighborhoods they serve,\u201d he said. \u201cBut community policing projects are really much more about just changing perceptions of law enforcement, not the practices of how they operate. And really, making police more directly connected to communities, embedding them more closely in communities, often just exposes residents to more interactions and more risks.\u201d\nGriffith joined digital media producer Morgan Lee and editorial director Ted Olsen to discuss the origins of the police, how a desire to reach teenagers affected attitudes toward law enforcement, and if white evangelicals views are changing or not.\nWhat is Quick to Listen?\xa0Read more\nRate Quick to Listen on\xa0Apple Podcasts\nFollow the podcast on\xa0Twitter\nFollow our hosts on Twitter:\xa0Morgan Lee\xa0and\xa0Ted Olsen\nFollow our guest on Twitter: Aaron L. Griffith\nMusic by\xa0Sweeps\nQuick to Listen is produced by\xa0Morgan Lee\xa0and\xa0Matt Linder\nThe transcript is edited by\xa0Bunmi Ishola\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices