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We both start out a little Grinchy, but (as always) feel better after a catch-up. We discuss: the stress of holiday season, Carinn's COVID PTSD, rampant White Lotus theories, About Fate, Fleishman's theory on longing, Emrata and Drew Afuelo, and Jane Fonda.\nSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices