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Caitlin is the Founder and CEO of Custodia Bank, a Wyoming-based bank which serves as a custodian of digital assets and a compliant bridge to the US Dollar system. Caitlin previously worked on Wall Street for 22 years between Morgan Stanley, Solomon Brothers, and Credit Suisse. She has been involved with Bitcoin since 2012 and more recently has helped her home state of Wyoming enact more than 20 blockchain-enabling laws to better define digital assets within the jurisdiction. Follow Caitlin on X @CaitlinLong_

[0:16] - How Caitlin first discovered Bitcoin and why she was interested

[11:50] - Caitlin\u2019s perspective on the current dichotomy between crypto and traditional finance

[17:37] - Defining money, bitcoin as a medium of exchange

[30:27] - Bitcoin as a continuous settlement system and \u201chard\u201d monetary asset

[42:02] - Forecasting a gradual, global transition from fiat money

[48:27] - The battle between states\u2019 rights and the Federal Reserve

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