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Carol Schwartz reading from the back cover summary of her new book "Quite A Life!, From Defeat to Defeat and Back"~\n\n"Carol Schwartz tells it like it was. Warts and all. . . if you want an outspoken, personal autobiography with pictures galore, that also talks about the history of DC since Home Rule, takes you behind the scenes of chaotic campaigns, as well as shows you the inner workings of government, all rolled together, come on this ride with me. . . It's a journey of wins and defeats and coming back with hope."\n\nFormer DC Councilwoman and Author, Carol Schwartz and Our Town host Andy Ockershausen in studio\n\nAndy Ockershausen:\tThis is Our Town. This is Andy Ockershausen, and I'm so delighted, more ways than you'll ever realize, and I hope sometime during this broadcast you know how much I appreciate this woman, what she's meant to Our Town for over 40 years. What she has done for Washington. That's Carol Schwartz. I always call her Mayor Tootsie. I think she should have been Mayor of Our Town many times. All the times she ran. What she brought was so much fire to our council and so much interest and so much of a woman that really cared about Our Town and Carol Schwartz, welcome to Our Town. \nAndy and Carol: Police Boys and Girls Club Connection\nCarol Schwartz:\tThank you, Andy, and it's nice to be with you again. We served together for, oh gosh, decades and decades on the Metropolitan Police Boys and Girls Clubs. \nAndy Ockershausen:\tYou were Chairman of the Board.\nCarol Schwartz:\tI was. I was the first woman President ...\nAndy Ockershausen:\tAbsolutely.\nCarol Schwartz:\t... in their 61 year history. In fact when I got there in 1979, when I was on the School Board, Dick England, God bless his soul ...\nAndy Ockershausen:\tAbsolutely.\nCarol Schwartz:\tOh I loved him. He brought me on and when I got there, women were just allowed on the board. Before that they had an auxiliary group of women that just baked the brownies. I actually bake a pretty good brownie, but that's not the role I wanted to play there. \nAndy Ockershausen:\tThe club was the Boys Club and then we added girls as we went along. The Police Boys and Girls Club but at one time it was a Police Boys Club, so that hung over for a while but you certainly changed it and you did so much for Our Town and that club. We lost the police department but I think we made so many inroads with it.\nCarol Schwartz:\tThe police are still involved with that one group because they merged with the Boys and Girls Clubs of America.\nAndy Ockershausen:\tof America, right?\nCarol Schwartz:\tYeah, which I always fought because I thought it was great to have our distinction and have ...\nAndy Ockershausen:\tA local group. \nCarol Schwartz:\t... the police involved, local group involved with the police department and it still is today. They've left that alone, thank goodness.\nAndy and Carol: Duke Zeibert's Connection\nAndy Ockershausen:\tWhat you did for Our Town, but that was just a sprinkling of all the things. Carol, we used to see each other all the time at a place that doesn't exist anymore called Duke Zeibert's. \nCarol Schwartz:\tOh I loved that.\nAndy Ockershausen:\tWe were in town and it was Our Town and you always saw people in and out of Duke's and you were a big part of Duke's.\nCarol Schwartz:\tOh I loved Duke's. I didn't go that often because it was a little far from where I worked.\nAndy Ockershausen:\tAbsolutely.\nCarol Schwartz:\tWhenever I went it was the biggest treat and he was so cute. He introduced everybody and he would introduce you and I even though we'd known each other about 30 years at that point, he would always introduce us. \nAndy Ockershausen:\tHe was a greeter.\nCarol Schwartz:\tOh he was a great greeter.\nAndy Ockershausen:\tWe used to kid him, he thought he was Toots Shor. He's a Jewish Toots Shor. \nCarol Schwartz:\tI think he was even better. He was wonderful, wonderful.\nThe Road From Texas to Washington DC\nAndy Ockershausen:\tCarol,