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A Conversation with Gary Ginsberg
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What is it with our Presidents?\\xa0 They all play golf. I think it has something to do with power. And friendship, too. Gary Ginsberg wrote a book called\\xa0\\u201cFirst Friends.\\u201d\\xa0It\\u2019s about nine U.S. Presidents and the people closest to them like Abe Lincoln and Joshua Speed. They slept in the same bed for four years. Vernon Jordan stayed loyal to Bill Clinton even as impeachment loomed. And then there\\u2019s Donald Trump the loner. He didn\\u2019t have a best friend. We talk about the long arm of history and friends in high places. \\u201cNow What?\\u201d is produced with the help of Steve Zimmer, Fei Lu and Alex Wolfe. Audio production is by Nick Ciavatta.
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