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Climate change is a favorite topic for me and my friend Justin Rogers-Cooper, who joins me here to talk about the state of the planet and the doomed human species in the Trump era. Despite its\xa0apocalyptic implications, our conversation takes\xa0an improbably optimistic turn, as Justin explains how the recent\xa0Star Wars\xa0entry\xa0Rogue One\xa0might point the way to a horizontal, inclusive politics strong enough to confront an increasingly challenging\xa0future.\xa0