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Nichole Shippen is a political theorist and professor at LaGuardia Community College\xa0in Queens, New York. We talked a bit about her youth in a small rancher town in Wyoming, and how she navigated the particular cultural landscape of such a space. Our discussion focuses mainly on race, identity, and class structure in America, as we try to situate events in Ferguson, Missouri within a wider political and historical continuum. Her book\xa0Decolonizing Time: Work, Leisure, and Freedom\xa0will be published this fall.\xa0