This week on Nerdette, we feature two of our favorite interviews from 2022, both with people who work to find hope and joy in tandem with difficulty and grief.\n\nFirst up is Dylan Marron, whose book \u2018Conversations with People Who Hate Me\u2019 is based on what he learned from his podcast with the same name. \n\nThen, poet Ross Gay reflects on an often overlooked emotion in his newest book, \u2018Inciting Joy.\u2019