This episode comes to you from Illinois and multiple locations in Ohio. Pat O\u2019Donnell (YoungWilliams) and co-host Ann Durkin (Stark County, OH Job and Family Services) are joined by Susan Brown (Director of Franklin County, OH Child Support Enforcement) and Rob Pearson (Deputy Director of Child Support, Stark County Job and Family Services). They discuss procedural justice and how it can be integrated into child support and case management, share their experiences with the Procedural Justice-Informed Alternatives to Contempt (PJAC) demonstration project, and talk about how they are incorporating procedural justice pre-contempt practices and implementing case management into their programs. They also talk a little bit about their history and background in the child support program.