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Karen Kleiman, MSW, LCSW\nOh, this is such a great chat! We talk about helping pregnant and postpartum mothers, Karen's scope of work, training providers so they can really help these moms and of course, her latest book "The Art of Holding in Therapy: An Essential Intervention for Postpartum Depression and Anxiety". Great stuff!\nKaren Kleiman, MSW, LCSW, is Founder and Executive Director of The Postpartum Stress Center. Founded in 1988, The Postpartum Stress Center is a treatment and professional training center for pregnancy and postpartum depression and anxiety.\xa0\nShe is author of 9 books on perinatal distress including the groundbreaking title: This Isn't What I Expected: Overcoming Postpartum Depression,\xa0now in its second edition,\xa0and\xa0Therapy and the Postpartum Woman.\xa0Her latest book is\xa0The Art of Holding in Therapy: An Essential Intervention for Postpartum Depression and Anxiety.\xa0\nAll I can say is...Get all of the books!\nPlease find more of Karen's work and information here:\nWebsite: http://postpartumstress.com/\nTwitter: @ppstresscenter\nInstagram @postpartumstress\nFb: The Postpartum Stress Center