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For the past few weeks, Jelly has been refactoring the core components of his app, so he feels like he needs to talk it out with Ben. The two look at their experiences with refactoring code and talk about the best ways to approach it, what it\u2019s place is within your regular workflow, and most importantly, how to know when you\u2019re finished. Along the way, they explore the basics of extreme programming, the problems with building up technical debt, and the longevity of Swift and Objective-C.\n\n\nKeyboard Shortcuts:\n\n\nCommand + Shift + J: Highlight current file in Project Navigator\nCommand + Shift + /: Menu Search