With his interest officially piqued, Jake is looking into Xamarin, and so the boys discuss making apps in alternative languages and the pros and cons attached to that. Afterwards, they share their origin stories, including Jake\u2019s desire to be an actor, Jelly\u2019s short-lived stint in theatre, Ben\u2019s dream of being a pilot, and why freelance work is so dang addictive. Finally, they discuss the shortcomings of UICollectionView and what the best way of containing \u201chack\u201d code is.