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Episode 50 of the Mavens Do It Better Podcast features Sasja Beerendonk, digital innovation evangelist, user adoption and change management expert, writer, author and highly-sought after speaker. \nSasja and Heather caught up virtually in Rotterdam, The Netherlands and Marina del Rey, CA. \nListen in as Sasja and Heather talk about: \nThe state of end user adoption and how companies can use different methodologies to improve digital literacy and how many people scratch the surface in how they use their computers. \nA chat about Heather\u2019s trip to Rotterdam to come participate in an end user adoption workshop there with Sasja and a discussion of different streams and exercises that can be used to support the user adoption. \nOur meeting in South Africa during SPS Johannesburg and Sasja\u2019s awesome session on Co-Authoring Documents in Office 365, not only the technology and features but the human side and how to change behaviors. \nHer beginnings wanting to be a history teacher and finding her way into IT after seeing how technology was influencing education and writing her Phd. on the subject. Moving further into IT as a consultant and specialist in end user adoption and change management expert.