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Published: Dec. 28, 2023, 11:38 p.m.

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The MacVoices Live! panel discusses the controversy surrounding Beeper, questioning whether it\'s a case of innovation or something less above-board. The back-and-forth between Beeper and Apple results in concerns about the security implications of giving out Apple IDs. The discussion shifts to the broader topic of politicians, particularly Elizabeth Warren, making statements about technology without a deep understanding of the issues at hand, with Beeper front and center. Overall, Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Eric Bolden, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Ben Roethig, Jeff Gamet, Jim Rea, Mark Fuccio, and Guy Serle explore the complexities of interoperability, user experience, and Apple\'s decision-making in the context of iMessage and Beeper.\\xa0

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This edition of MacVoices is supported by the MacVoices Holiday Gift Guides. Great gear picks by our panelists. Check them out: http://MacVoices.com/HolidayGiftGuides

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Show Notes:

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Chapters:

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0:05:18 Beeper: Apple\'s Block and Unblocking Methods

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0:06:17 Forging certificates and Apple\'s response

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0:07:42 Beeper\'s sudden shift to being a free service

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0:10:19 Elizabeth Warren\'s Anti-Tech Grandstanding

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0:12:47 Politicians and Technology: Broad Strokes vs. Single Issues

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0:14:39 Elizabeth Warren\'s Twitter Post Criticized

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0:16:12 Apple\'s Reputation and Tech Company Misconceptions

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0:19:53 Android vs. Apple: User Interface Differentiation

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0:21:57 Apple\'s Motive for iMessage: Breaking Carrier Monopoly or Selling Phones?

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0:23:47 Beeper App: Motivated by Acquisition Potential

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0:25:20 Web\'s Positive Experience with CarPlay in Tesla

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Links:

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Apple Confirms It Shut Down iMessage for Android App Beeper Mini\\xa0

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https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/10/apple-confirms-it-shut-down-beeper-mini/

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iMessage for Android App \'Beeper Mini\' is Back, Apple ID Sign In Now Required and Phone Numbers Don\'t Work\\xa0

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https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/11/beeper-mini-android-imessage-app-back/

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Beeper\\u2019s iMessage app for Android is back \\u2014 but it\\u2019s a downgrade\\xa0

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https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/11/23997097/beeper-mini-android-imessage-app-working-again

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Senator Warren wades into Apple\'s Beeper fight with irrelevant antitrust rhetoric\\xa0

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https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/12/11/senator-warren-wades-into-apples-beeper-fight-with-irrelevant-antitrust-rhetoric

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Beeper Mini restores its iMessage app for Android and makes it free, but will it last?\\xa0

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https://9to5google.com/2023/12/11/beeper-mini-restored-apple/

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Guests:

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Eric Bolden\\xa0is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter,\\xa0by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social,\\xa0and on his blog, Trending At Work.

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Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud.

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Mark Fuccio\\xa0is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990\'s selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through\\xa0Twitter,\\xa0LinkedIn, or on Mastodon.

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Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer\\u2019s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter\\xa0and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn.,\\xa0@jgamet@mastodon.social on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at YouTube.com/jgamet.

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David Ginsburg\\xa0is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at\\xa0@daveg65@mastodon.cloud

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Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE\'s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He\\u2019s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim@techhub.social on Mastodon.

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Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on \\xa0Twitter and Mastodon.

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Guy Serle,\\xa0best known for being one of the co-hosts of the\\xa0MyMac Podcast, sincerely apologizes for anything he has done or caused to have happened while in possession of dangerous podcasting equipment. He should know better but being a blonde from Florida means he\'s probably incapable of understanding the damage he has wrought. Guy is also the author of the novel,\\xa0The Maltese Cube. You can follow his exploits on\\xa0Twitter, catch him on\\xa0Mac to the Future\\xa0on Facebook, at @Macparrot@mastodon.social, and find everything at\\xa0VertShark.com.

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