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Raiza Martin is a senior product manager for AI at Google Labs, where she leads the team behind NotebookLM, an AI-powered research tool that includes a delightful podcast-on-demand feature called \u201cAudio Overviews.\u201d NotebookLM started as a 20% project and has grown into a product that\u2019s spreading across social media and has a Discord server with over 60,000 users. Raiza previously worked on AI Test Kitchen and has a background in startups, payments, and ads. In our conversation, we discuss:

\u2022 The origin story of NotebookLM

\u2022 The future road map for NotebookLM

\u2022 How Google Labs operates differently from the rest of Google

\u2022 The development of the \u201cAudio Overviews\u201d feature

\u2022 Key metrics and growth of NotebookLM

\u2022 Stories about collaborating with author Steven Johnson

\u2022 Navigating potential misuse of AI technology

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Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/googles-notebooklm-raiza-martin

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Where to find Raiza Martin:

\u2022 X: https://x.com/raiza_abubakar

\u2022 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/whatsaraiza/

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\u2022 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to NotebookLM

(05:43) The genesis of NotebookLM

(08:08) Innovative features and use cases

(18:52) Building a startup culture within Google

(24:28) Expanding user demographics

(27:30) The product roadmap

(32:18) Other use cases

(36:11) Collaborating with Steven Johnson

(42:49) Ensuring ethical AI

(46:06) Future directions and user engagement

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