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Ian and Sujewa welcome RogerEbert.com's Editor at Large, Matt Zoller Seitz, for a look at two dystopian-future epics: Jean-Luc Godard's Alphaville and Matt's very own, in-progress puppet film, Space Rabbit (produced by Sujewa)!

In Godard's 1965 neo-noir masterpiece, a government agent's search for a missing scientist leads him to a planet ruled by order and governed by an omniscient supercomputer. Seitz's movie centers on a hard-boiled lion detective's plot to liberate a world run by a fascist squirrel.

In this far-reaching and...ahem...animated conversation, the guys talk about the origins of both films; the influences that inspired each; and the ways in which Alphaville's sensibilities and style have echoed through generations of film and pop culture. There's also a fun detour into the movies of Terrence Malick, and Matt's ambitious plans for finishing and releasing Space Rabbit!

Time Stamps:

Intro: 0:00 - 0:40

Space Rabbit Discussion: 0:40 - 25:18

Alphaville Discussion: 25:18 - 45:57

Sojourn in Malick Land: 45:57 - 55:42

Return to Alphaville: 55:42 - 1:15:21

Outro: 1:15:21 - 1:17:24

Show Links:

• Watch the Alphaville Trailer: https://bit.ly/3pvz62K

• Watch a 7-minute interrogation scene from Space Rabbit: https://vimeo.com/206130317

• Check out the original Space Rabbit video pitch for Indiegogo: https://vimeo.com/206127149

• Read Matt's criticism and pop culture commentary at RogerEbert.com, Vulture, and Matt’s online bookstore.

• Watch the teaser trailer for Sujewa’s upcoming film, The Secret Society for Slow Romance.

• Keep up with all of Sujewa's projects.

• Subscribe to, like, and comment on the Kicking the Seat YouTube channel!