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This is a classic episode from back when we had no listeners! Joe and Tom meet a prison governor and ask him everything they've ever wanted to know about prisons.\n\ufeffWhat do you want Joe to get up to in Japan and New Zealand this summer? Email joe@crowdnetwork.co.uk\n\nIf you would like to be a guest on the show, click here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1rfSo3PVJgtBRZHCCAZndem-iyy2EdvGcEYDqycsM2aQ/viewform\n\nTo get ad-free and longer episodes on Apple, hit the 'grow the show' button or click: https://apple.co/3sAX0xR\n\nOn Spotify you can subscribe for \xa31 a week by clicking this link: https://anchor.fm/thingspeopledo\n\nTo become an official sponsor, go to Patreon.com/thingspeopledo\n\nTo grow the show on socials, look for @thingspeoplepod on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok\n\nMusic courtesy of BMG Production Music\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices