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Intersections with Phil Allen, Jr.\nEpisode: 028 \u201cAfter the Chauvin Verdict: Now What\u201d \nAirdate: April 26, 2021\nLength: 29:29\nIn this episode Phil Allen is simply downloading his thoughts on the Chauvin verdict and what it really means for us as a nation. Does this verdict suggest radical cultural change, particularly with law enforcement and policing the African American community, or is it simply a moment and a chance to catch our collective breath. Will things remain the same once this is a distant memory?\nAllen delves into what it means to live as a Black person in what we calls the \u201cin-between.\u201d In this in-between existence is where Black people figuratively \u201chold their collective breaths\u201d awaiting justice, opportunities, equity, and even respect. In the meantime, Allen brings to the forefront the issue undergirding racism, whiteness (some may say white supremacy).\nThe question to ponder is \u201cWhere do we go from here?\u201d We can continue to deal with the symptoms of racism or we can do the soul work and address its undergirding forces\u2014whiteness/white supremacy\u2014and truly transform our nation.\n____________\nPhil Allen, Jr (http://www.philallenjr.com). is a Los Angeles-based pastor, social justice activist, filmmaker and author. Allen\u2019s book Open Wounds explores the murder of Nate Allen\u2014Phil Allen\u2019s grandfather\u2014in the Jim Crow era of South Carolina and how that traumatic event resonated through generations of his family. Open Wounds \u2013 which is based on the Allen-produced documentary (http://www.openwoundsdoc.com) of the same name \u2013 was published on February 9, 2021. The book can be purchased on Amazon.com, Barnesandnoble.com, or Fortress Press.com. Allen is a Ph.D. student studying Christian ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA.