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Marq de Villiers is a journalist and author who has written on a variety of topics. His most recent book: "Hell and Damnation," focuses on, well, that very place. We talk about what hell is, how it came to be, why lots of us still believe it is "down there", while also deciding that astrophysics is much more interesting a concept for discussion than the eternal afterlife. You can check out Marq de Viller's work at https://marqdevilliers.com/ as well as pick up his recent book "Hell and Damnation" from Amazon or wherever you like to pick up your books at.