In today's episode, recorded late in 2017, Steve Tannen, one half of the American indie band The Weepies, and I laugh a lot.\xa0Steve\xa0shares a story about how being told he sucked at songwriting actually led to him writing one of the Weepies most well-loved songs! He also shares about:\n- Not killing your songs by overthinking them\n- Why collaborating with his partner, Deb Talan, works\n- How "song challenges" have made a difference &\n- Why persisting in failure, obscurity and success is key.