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Jen Lee is the director and producer of two feature-length documentaries:\xa0Bright Lights\xa0(2016) and\xa0Indie Kindred\xa0(2013). A GrandSLAM storytelling champion, Lee's autobiographical stories have been featured on the Peabody Award-winning Moth Radio Hour. Her resources for artists and makers worldwide include\xa0The 10 Letters Project\xa0and\xa0Movies for Makers.\nIn our conversation from 2017, Jen talks about:\nUncovering memories of what you love\nHow making things is a way to finding peace\nRe-working your paradigm around how creative work gets done\nThe more time and effort equation does NOT EQUAL BETTER WORK (it gets thin, not rich and deep)