This episode we're book-clubbing Making It, the new NBC reality show with a Great British Baking Show feel, hosted by Amy Poehler and Nick Offerman! In the first part we discuss reality TV and "kind media" in the Trump era, whether we recommend watching this show, and how it compares to other creative competition shows. In the second (spoiler) part, we determine whether the winner deserved their win, which crafts were our favorites, and our own experience with craft-type hobbies! Recorded 9/16/2018.