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\\u201cWhen it comes to refrigeration, so many of us have just come to accept that that\\u2019s how things are done. But I think in the food sovereignty conversation, those dependencies can sometimes be overlooked when we\\u2019re talking about what it means to become sovereign.\\u201d

In this episode, we welcome Hi\\u02bbilei Julia Kawehipuaakahaopulani Hobart (Kanaka Maoli), who is Assistant Professor of Native and Indigenous Studies at Yale University. An interdisciplinary scholar, she researches and teaches on issues of settler colonialism, environment, and Indigenous sovereignty. Her first book,\\xa0Cooling the Tropics: Ice, Indigeneity, and Hawaiian Refreshment is a recipient of the press\\u2019s Scholars of Color First Book Award.

Some of the topics we explore in this conversation include the symbolism of ice and shaved ice in Hawai\\u2019i, the establishment of the cold chain as an integral part of the global food system, provocations about the anthropocentric desire to control ambient temperatures, and more.

(The musical offering featured in this episode Tear Down The Wall by Forest Veil. The episode-inspired artwork is by Haruka Aoki.)

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