With NSW and Victoria in lockdown, cases rising every day, protesters clashing in the streets, and Delta reaching our most vulnerable remote communities, you might be feeling that the only light at the end of the tunnel is the successful vaccination rollout to Australia. \n\nBut even the modelling around vaccinations is fraught with differing opinions. At what point should Australia open up? 70% vaccination rate? 80%? Should we even come out of lockdowns if we reach these targets? \n\nListen to Stephen Duckett, Health and Aged Care Program Director in conversation with Kat Clay, Head of Digital Communications, about what\u2019s going on with Australia\u2019s vaccine rollout. \n\nFor more information, visit: https://grattan.edu.au/