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Interviews with Frank Herbert: All governments lie.
Abu\xa0and\xa0Leo\xa0bring you the words of Frank Herbert himself, pulling from interviews and articles going back over 50 years.\xa0\nThis episode contains\xa0SPOILERS\xa0for Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune\nGet ad-free episodes and bonus content by becoming a Patron\nCheck out the custom-designed Dune swag on our\xa0merch store\nWatch video versions of select episodes on\xa0YouTube\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices