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Interview conducted by James McQuaid, January 6, 1978.\n\nPhoto: Nathan Lerner (American, 1913\u20131997). "Eye on Window, New York," 1943. Courtesy of Department of Photography/George Eastman Museum. Gift of Tom Wilson.\n\nThe Silver Voices Project, which allowed for digitization and sharing of this archival audio, was made possible by a grant from the U.S. Institute of Museum and Library Services, grant number MA-30-19-0681-19.\n\nAny views, findings, conclusions, or recommendations expressed in this audio do not necessarily represent those of the Institute of Library Sciences or the National Endowment for the Humanities.