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Interview conducted by George Pratt.\n\nPhoto by Irving Chidnoff, courtesy Stills, Posters, and Paper Collections/George Eastman Museum.\n\nThe Silver Voices Project, which allowed for digitization and sharing of this archival audio, was made possible by a grant from the U.S. Institute of Museum and Library Services, grant number MA-30-19-0681-19.\n\nGenerous support for the introductions provided by Art Bridges, and made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: NEH CARES.\n\nAny views, findings, conclusions, or recommendations expressed in this audio do not necessarily represent those of the Institute of Library Sciences or the National Endowment for the Humanities.