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Interview conducted by Steven Lewis, December 12, 1976.\n\nThis interview was produced as part of an oral history project funded by the National Endowment for the Humanities.\n\nPhoto: Peter Gasser (Swiss, b. 1947). "Ansel Adams, Carmel," 1979. Courtesy of Department of Photography/George Eastman Museum. Gift of the photographer.\n\nThe Silver Voices Project, which allowed for digitization and sharing of this archival audio, was made possible by a grant from the U.S. Institute of Museum and Library Services, grant number MA-30-19-0681-19.\n\nAny views, findings, conclusions, or recommendations expressed in this audio do not necessarily represent those of the Institute of Library Sciences or the National Endowment for the Humanities.