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Vagner Figueredo de Santana is the author of the Leanpub book Interaction Data Analytics: Methods, Tools, and Applications. In this interview, Leanpub co-founder Len Epp talks with Vagner about his background, getting a PhD, the fascinating details of human-computer interaction, computer anxiety, explicit and implicit forms of interaction,his book, and at the end, they talk a little bit about his experience as a self-published author.\n\nThis interview was recorded on October 13, 2022.\n\nThe full audio for the interview is here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/leanpub_podcasts/FM240-Vagner-Santana-2022-10-13.mp3. The Frontmatter podcast is available on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/leanpub, in Apple Podcasts here https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/frontmatter/id517117137, on Spotify here https://open.spotify.com/show/00DiOFL9aJPIx8c2ALxUdz, and almost everywhere people listen to podcasts.\n\nThis interview has been edited for conciseness and clarity.