Phil Sturgeon is the author of the Leanpub book Surviving Other People\u2019s APIs. In this interview, Leanpub co-founder Len Epp talks with Phil about what he\u2019s been up to since he was last on the podcast, co-founding the environmental charity Protect Earth, and his latest book, Surviving Other People\u2019s APIs.\n\nThis interview was recorded on May 23, 2024.\n\nThe full audio for the interview is here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/leanpub_podcasts/FM292-Phil-Sturgeon-2024-05-13.mp3. The Frontmatter podcast is available on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/leanpub, in Apple Podcasts here https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/frontmatter/id517117137, and almost everywhere else people listen to podcasts.