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Katrina Clokie is the author of the Leanpub book A Practical Guide to Testing in DevOps. In this interview, Leanpub co-founder Len Epp talks with Katrina about her background, the importance and nature of software testing, some interesting tools of the trade, her book, and at the end, they talk a little bit about her experience as a self-published author.\n\nThis interview was recorded on September 8, 2017.\n\nThe full audio for the interview is here. You can subscribe to the Frontmatter podcast in iTunes or add the podcast URL directly.\n\nThis interview has been edited for conciseness and clarity.\n\n\n\nA Note About the Leanpub Frontmatter Podcast\n\nThis summer we split the old Leanpub podcast into two distinct podcasts:\n\nFrontmatter, which is a general interest podcast where you can listen to Leanpub authors talk with Leanpub co-founder Len Epp about their books and their areas of expertise, from data science to molecular biology, to the history of labor and management. And for those interested in the nitty-gritty of what it takes to be a successful self-published author, at the end of each episode Len asks the author about how they made their book and how they are spreading the word, and other publishing shop talk.\n\nBackmatter, a new podcast focused specifically on the publishing industry and its latest trends. In each episode Len interviews a professional from the publishing world about their background and their insider's perspective on what's happening in the huge and evolving world of book publishing.