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Conversation on the main topic starts in the second half of the episode.

It's the end of August, and for us, it is the harvest season. We discuss this year's harvest of the grapes and the beginnings of this season's winemaking. Kyle reads a few news stories and we discuss those, then in the second segment Russ reads a long story from the Mysterious Universe website about four cases of strange mass animal deaths.

In the second half of the show, Kyle talks about the "philosophy of narrative", how common stories have a powerful influence on people and culture. How much have ancient mythologies influenced us? We also talk about the ability to focus on one thing versus the need to pay attention to the big picture, and how to balance these two ways of looking at the world, and how that connects to ancient mysteries, structures, and mythology.