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Published: Aug. 26, 2021, 3 a.m.

In a conversation fresh from the Freakonomics Radio Network\u2019s podcast laboratory, Mich\xe8le Flournoy (one of the highest-ranking women in Defense Department history) speaks with Cecil Haney (one of the U.S. Navy\u2019s first Black four-star admirals) about nuclear deterrence, smart leadership, and how to do inclusion right.