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No agency can operate effectively without a solid financial framework. That's where chief financial officers come in. Federal Drive host Tom Temin talked with someone who has operated as a CFO at large federal agencies and at two major universities. At the moment Gwendolyn Sykes is the CFO of the Secret Service and a new follow at the National Academy of Public Administration or NAPA.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices