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Cass & Bob talk with former pastor, Dan Barker. Dan was a door-to-door evangelical Christian whose mission was set on saving souls. This is his story of deconversion. In his words, he drained the bathwater and there was no baby. The first time he came out as ex-Christian was in 1984 on the Oprah Winfrey show, where he also met his future wife, Annie Laurie Gaylor, and co-president with him of the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

His new book is \u201cLife Driven Purpose.\u201d\xa0
http://ffrf.org/

We taped this talk on Oct 31st, 2015. Subscribe to our podcast on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn and most podcast platforms.\xa0 If you\u2019re feeling grateful for our podcast, Patreon.com is like a per episode tip jar for our work.

Credits:\xa0
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU\xa0
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson\xa0
All other music by either Dan Barker or myself.\xa0 \xa0

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