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Cass and Bob interview Marie D'Elephant.

Early in the interview, Marie confesses that as she was graduating from high school, she seriously doubted her own intellect, so between that and her obsession with kingdom things, she decided against college and instead entered the mission field with YWAM. She also admitted that just 2 years ago she wouldn\u2019t have had the confidence to come on a podcast like this, but the Marie we witness here today is really bright, really courageous, and is all out fucks for the cultural standards that oppressed as a woman for the first 30 years of her life\u2014and she expressly says so in this episode. She drops more f-bombs than any guest in our history, even more than me.\xa0

What this episode brings up for me is the power and maturation that BEGINS when one leaves an oppressive Christianity. There are Christianities that postpone one\u2019s maturation. This has largely to do with the absence of personal responsibility, the surrendering of autonomy and decision making and problem solving to God. I get the sense that in the last 6 years, since I resolved there were no gods, that it\u2019s just us here, and I joined the human race and reality, that for the first time in my life, at age 50, the wheels and gears of the natural maturation process, the wisdom that comes from truly being a student of life, that were suspended by Christianity, have begun turning again and I\u2019m becoming something and emerging as a truly free, self-determining agent and a true steward of my life. It\u2019s really exciting to see myself emerging and get to know myself and to garner this power to embrace my identity, which is intentionally surrendered in Christianity. \u201cYou are not your own, you\u2019ve been bought with a price.\u201d \u201cyour body belongs to god\u201d \u201cyour mind belongs to god\u201d Coming out from under voluntary serfdom and into free agency has been one of the biggest positives of deconverting. No, I do not think I\u2019m god, no, this is not pride\u2026this is just getting honest with reality and shedding the fairy tale narrative that there ever was a god who was in charge of everything.\xa0 The \u201chow now shall I live\u201d goes from horrifying to a most exciting thing to explore.\xa0 What Marie calls, \u201cre-owning my brain.\u201d

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Credits:
"Towering Mountain of Ignorance" intro by Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3v3S82TuxU
Intro bumper "Never Know" by Jack Johnson

Thanks for listening and be a yes-sayer to what is.

Episode 27 of Secular Sexuality featuring Marie as \u201cApril\u201d\xa0Marie's story starts at the 30:20 mark

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