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We\u2019ll throw down the gauntlet here. This is *classic* Elis and John. A podium place episode. Champions League. There, I said it. Big laughs, sex swapping, something harrowing from Robins, an absolute Billy belter\u2026 of a Cymru Connection, Americans dealing with 5-year-olds\u2019 opinions on gun control and a rock solid Shame.

Elsewhere Elis settles into married life by talking about Patreon to a Frenchman, John is desperate to know from Phil Wang how to get a Netflix Special and a Made Up Game to really grab your attention. There\u2019s just *a lot* going on.

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