Jos\xe9 and Mike return to a galaxy far, far away, in search of new perspectives and thoughts on The Last Jedi. Mike in particular has been itching to talk more about it since he feels he was unfairly lukewarm the first time. We ruminate on what makes Star Wars feel different to other sci-fi; how films feel tighter and shorter on second viewing; Han's dice; confusion on the resistance cruiser; why we still disagree about Mark Hamill's performance; whether a Jedi can survive in space; and the differences between the First Order and the Empire, and Hux's construction as a figure of fun.\n\nAnd in a shocking climax, Jos\xe9 claims that Mike doesn't know anything about love.\n\nRecorded on 21st December 2017.