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In this episode of the Defence Connect podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Dr Ross Babbage, CEO of Strategic Forum and senior non-resident fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.

• The pair discuss\xa0Dr\xa0Babbage\u2019s\xa0background working as a senior\xa0policymaker\xa0and public servant in\xa0Australia\xa0through to his role working to reform Australian defence industry and the launch of his new book.
• They then discuss the reasoning behind the writing of\xa0Dr Babbage\u2019s\xa0new book,\xa0The Next Major War,\xa0which takes a detailed look at the economic, industrial and strategic challenges facing the United States, Australia and the broader Western alliance network as they seek to respond to increased Chinese aggression.
• They also discuss the domestic challenges facing an expansion of Australia\u2019s own industrial capacity and how it can better support and benefit from the global realignment.
• Finally, the pair discuss how to engage the Australian public, in particular young\xa0Australians,\xa0to help them understand the challenges facing the nation and the opportunities presented if we act now.