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In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by Dr Ross Babbage, CEO of Strategic Forum and senior non-resident fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments. \xa0 The pair begin their conversation discussing the origins of Dr Babbage\u2019s report for the Lowy Institute,\xa0Deterrence\xa0and alliance power: Why the AUKUS submarines matter and how they can be\xa0delivered.\xa0 \xa0 The pair also discuss:\xa0

• Some of the concerns in Australia, the United\xa0States,\xa0and\xa0the\xa0United Kingdom around delivering the future SSN-AUKUS fleet.\xa0
• The risk/reward opportunity available to Australia as part of the generational\xa0nation-building\xa0program AUKUS represents.\xa0
• Setting the record straight on some of the misconceptions and focal points that dominate the national conversation about AUKUS.\xa0