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In today's podcast, we hear that the\xa0SEC\xa0was\xa0hacked, and someone might have made a lot of money\xa0from the incident. Equifax tweets send inquirers to a phishing site. Investigation into the Avast caper suggests a state intelligence service's hand. The Department of Homeland Security clarifies its ban on Kaspersky products.\xa0Emily Wilson from Terbium Labs, cautioning us to not be so distracted by big shiny objects like "taking down the power grid" that we forget the basics, like enabling two-factor authentication.\xa0Richard Henderson, global security strategist at Absolute, commenting on the Equifax breach and the challenges of keeping up with\xa0patching.\xa0And\xa0chatbots turn spiritual.\xa0\n Thanks for listening to the CyberWire. One of the ways you can support what we do is by visiting our sponsors. Recorded Future's user conference RFUN 2017 comes to Washington, D.C. , October 4th and 5th, 2017, bringing together the people who put the act in actionable intelligence. If you\u2019d like to learn more about how small nuances in how artificial intelligence and machine learning are used can make a big difference, check out E8\u2019s white paper.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices