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With guest Bob Shuman
Robert Shuman was a student of Shunryu Suzuki in the San Francisco and at Tassajara\xa0 and then a student of Joshu Sasaki in LA and at Mt. Baldy and then of Philip Kapleau in Rochester.\xa0 He and his wife Hennie went to Raleigh to lead a Zen group long ago and they're still there now though their group hasn't met since Covid began.