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On the podcast this month, Seb Rose and Steve Tooke speak to Allan Kelly, a well-known agile consultant and long-time friend of the pod. \n\n**On the podcast the three discuss:***\n\n - Why agile often just means agile software development. \n\n - What companies mean when they say "digital transformation". \n\n - Advice for ambitious teams who want to spread agile across the organisation. \n\n - Allan's personal story into agile consulting.\n\n - Why he advocates a #noprojects mindset\n\n - Why Seb shares Allan's Dear Customer blog post with all his post-graduate students. \n\nShownotes:\n\n - Dear Customer - https://leanpub.com/xanpan/c/Trega15\n\n - Agile on the Beach - http://agileonthebeach.com/\n\n - How buildings learn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEqfg2sIH0\n\nhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Buildings-Learn-Happens-Theyre/dp/0140139966\n\n - Allan on Twitter - https://twitter.com/allankellynet\n\n - Allan's blog - https://www.allankellyassociates.co.uk/