Podcasts Culture Courting in Color 40. Examining Annie and Nick's Relationship on 'Shrill', Was It Mixed Messages or Missed Messages?

40. Examining Annie and Nick's Relationship on 'Shrill', Was It Mixed Messages or Missed Messages?

Published: July 5, 2021, 10:30 a.m.

On this week\u2019s episode, Chatrice and Luis talk and review the third season of Shrill (Hulu). Since last time, Luis has developed a cold and recently back from vacation, while Chatrice is waiting on her house to finish and has been watching all the Black content on HBO Max. For the main topic (SPOILER WARNING), our hosts want to talk about mixed messages through the arc of Annie and Nick on \u201cShrill\u201d in season 3.  What do you make when someone is being flirty, spending a lot of time with you, pay for meals, wanting to keep seeing you, and invite you over late at night? Does that mean someone is into you? Courting Cuties, have you ever mixed up someone\u2019s message or flipside you missed all the messages that they were into you?


Time Stamps

0:30 - Hello, Welcome Back, and Check In

5:56 - Me moments of the week for the week since last episodes

7:45 - Merch idea: \u201cI can only do as much with the time that I have\u201d - Luis

9:12 - Chatrice applied for the \u201cLive Anywhere\u201d Airbnb program!

10:52 - Shout Out for the Culture: Chatrice watches all the Black and POC content including In the Heights, Pause with Sam Jay, Black Lady Sketch Show

11:54 - In the Heights discourse: Afro-Latinx people not present in the move

18:06 - Black TikTokers are on strike using Megan the Stallion\u2019s \u201cThot Shit\u201d

19:32 - Black queer people at the 2021 BET Awards!

20:56 - Main Topic Section: Mixed Messages or Missed Messages

22:04 - Description of Show

22:54 - Character breakdown 

24:04 - Overall thoughts on the show

26:58 - Chatrice leaning into her identity as a fat Black woman

28:26 - Focus: Annie and Nick\u2019s 4-episode story arc

29:02 - Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #1: Nick shows up at Annie\u2019s office, go out for coffee at the park

30:19 - Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #1: Reaction

34:40 - Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #2: Annie and Nick are eating breakfast

36:20 - If the hosts were Annie, what would they be thinking at this point two encournters in?

36:40 - Is breakfast a date-y meal?

37:35 - \u201cBreakfast is the most important meal of the day but it is the least important meal in dating and relationships\u201d - Luis

38:25 - Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #4: Annie posts a thirst trap and Nick falls into you

38:44 - Defining \u201cthirst trap\u201d

40:29 - Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #4: Reaction

41:19 - Intimacy of friendships as you have in romantic and sexual relationships

42:11- What are the parameters of booty call hours?

45:22 - Use explicitly of the word \u201cdate\u201d or the words \u201cgoing out\u201d

46:14 - Context of the word \u201cout\u201d referencing \u201cgoing out\u201d

47:01 - Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #5: Nick and Annie hang out, Annie cooks her (what Fran calls) \u201csex lasagna\u201d

50:26 - Visceral reaction to Nick not being into Annie

50:40 - Keeps you on the roster without commitment

52:22 - Reaction to Annie and Nick\u2019s Encounter #5

56:09 - Time to go back to the social contract and social construct of dating

1:00:04 - Final Question: Is Annie a victim of MIXed message or MISSed messages from Nick?

1:02:18 - Any tips for the Annies and Nicks out there, the ones who are giving and receiving the mixed messages?

1:02:54 - Tip from the Luis Vault: express your interest after the first date

1:05:52 - Chatrice\u2019s advice for the Nicks out there

1:08:28 - Episode ends

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