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In this interview with Fortean author (and returning guest!) Joshua Cutchin, we discuss his new two volume book on the connection between death and the paranormal, Ecology of Souls. From the initiating Anne Strieber remark \u2014 \u201cThis has something to do with what we call death\u201d\u2014 to McKenna\u2019s psychedelic exploration and Jung\u2019s framing of the flying saucer phenomenon, Cutchin\u2019s new work fills a void in the ufological and Fortean literature. Subjects discussed include: his personal theory of life after death; the inadequacy of the nuts & bolts approach to UFOs, and more!\n\nJosh\u2019s work can be found at https://www.joshuacutchin.com/\n\nYou can support Consensus Unreality and access tons of exclusive episodes, written material and discussions for just 5$ a month at\n\nhttps://www.patreon.com/consensusunreality\n\nIntro music by Treatment\n\ntreatmentforu.bandcamp.com/